Customer Service 13:45:38 We take the clubs from factory directly, cutting the middleman. what condition can i expect the clubs to be in? Cheers. Please do not wear clothing with any large distinguishable marks. @"A.G. Pennypacker " cant wait to get out tomorrow morning. They sell more gold clubs than anyone on Ebay and have the most favorable ratings. Thats where I found this thread. Paul. My friend bring this club to the Golfsmith for trade in. I would not do it Chinese named registrar. So now Im wondering if they are fakes. Im normally very careful online. I am looking at purchasing a set of irons from http://www.2ndswing.com/index.htm The site seems to be legit can anyone confirm? I ask this, because I would like to get a set of a12 os. Couldnt check my control or length of the shot since I was hitting into a net; however, it did appear that the ball was launching higher than normal for me. It has no physical address, some of literature on the website is in pidgin English, telephone number is only for taking orders and amazingly they claim to have sold 10 million sets of clubs. According to Entrepreneur, the Hot 500 rankings are compiled with the help of Corporate Research Board, a research organization. If you are to buy clones the only 2 companies I would deal with are Diamondtour.com & PinemeadowGolf.com. Most of the rip-off online stores have old inventories (Nike platinum) or regular-priced golf balls. An example: http://thegolfclubreviews.com/. instead of 70 gms. Not as big of a deal with clothing personally but golf clubs, probably wouldnt risk it. I took a closer look at it and it was indeed a fake, the manager of the store agreed so they had to take it off the rack. If you can only afford $500 (and IMHO thats all most average golfers should spend) find yourself a nice clone maker who will back their product with a warranty and you will not have to worry if your getting ripped off. I think the fakers buy/source original heads as use them as master models for casting, I have seen Epons that were 99.9% as good,but cast and polished, Having said that,would not suggest contibuting to their cause. The store web address is http://stores.ebay.com/bobsbettergolf, they seem OK and very responsive, any info is appreciated. Do you think these are also selling counterfeit products..? : If I find my ping g15 driver is fake when it arrives (perfectoutdoorgame) what is the best recourse of action to get my money back. I bought pxg irons because at least they are assembled by the engineers not mad produced by companies that pay the workers a ridiculous low wage. I recently ordered supposed Taylormade R11 Fairway Woods from OURDISCOUNTGOLF.COM. All three websites are probably the same corrupt organisation. I wish I read this before I went for the mirage that is cheap online Titleist Drivers! Has anyone bought clubs from easygolforder.com? Regards. Your link has been automatically embedded. please never buy their clubs. I have used rockbottom golf several times and had no issues with the products I received. Or did the basic to good to be true rule apply to most cases? Daisy 00:19:45 Good information. I wonder if the shafts are genuine and the heads are cheap forgeries or are the shafts fakes also? Good idea for a post. I recently considered ordering a set of Taylormade R11 irons of a website. RockBottomGolf.com, a top Internet golf retailer prides itself on bringing rock bottom prices to all its customers known as Rock Heads. Miura is known for world class forgings. This is a very poor quality counterfeit. I also am disputing the charge to my credit card company, but I had to send in the club to Callaway to get the officail letter stating it was a fake club. A magnet does not stick to it but who knows. Oh dear I am another sucker, it all seems legit until you hit the order button. Created on: 23-Mar-98 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Craig Coleman wrote: I am looking at buying some Callaway X22 irons and obviously having seen the price you are offering them for I am very interested. Registrant Postal Code: 351100 Sorry, i feel overseas quality control is crap. Address : 10821 S. Ridgeway They have 75k sales, so is this just OEM mass production prices? will buy from him for good now with his prices on taylormade products. Go play them and have a great time on the course, no? you cant tell me a tp driver costs 500 bucks to make but a standard tm driver will still net a profit on sale next year for 150. hi everyone, btw sorry for my bad english (im a french canadian from quebec) ive just purchase a nike sq dymo driver on the web and the driver has not aiming mark on the crown (the two little triangle ) do you think its a fake ??? So they have totally misrepresented themselves when they registered their domain. Display as a link instead, Ping G30 irons w/Recoil 95 I should have it up in a few days. They are easily copied. Awesome job! I DETEST any manufacturer that FIXES A PRICE. Any other question, please feel free to contact us. Counterfiet sellers copy the icon to their webpage, but it doesnt work like it is suppose too. 50"-35.75" length range. I have noticed that the soles of the heads do show marks (i.e. Prices are really low and was debating purchasing the Ping G20 irons but worried whether there fakes or not, Warning for http://www.hotgolfuk.com! Heads-up. They LOOK beautiful! Hitting the ball pure feels sensational - soft, crisp, without a single extra vibration in your hands. He played with the club for few times as very bad and want to trade in with different club, but the Golfsmith rejected it, because the shaft is cheap and fake label. Anyone seen this web site as advertising Taylor made R11 set for 689 including woods putter and bag? Cobra F6 3, 5 woods Fujikura Motore F1 X 85 I 20:23:28 prices were good on a Nike Sq. Thank you! I read too many messages on this site and everyone need to be careful! Its not often you fing the fake site with a form of contact however i found a site with a chat link, and clearly the service was so poor and DAISEY, well not sure she can speak english have a look at our lovely conversation , I 00:10:30 I found out later that they were counterfeits. if they are a fake i will open a dispute on paypal once i have recived the clubs. Higgins, Russell Hope to see you back. I think those are the guys that are also selling fake Miura irons too. I simply did a google search for Ping G15 Irons and on the sidebar had numerous hits for brand new iron sets priced at $369.99, and $389.99. Looks way to good to be true, but let me know. Once you see it up against a legit driver, you know youve been fooled. I think some of these clubs are starting to make their way into retailers as used clubs. Titleist Scammers. I also hit the 57 CBs but didn't like their feel as much as the blades. They say they are selling OEM clubs and ship directly from Asia hence why they can sell so cheap, although does OEM mean they are fake? they really do feel unique. #PowerToThePlayer. Here is the whois info for this site You guys can look these up yourself, just go to google and type in whois golfdiscounting.com and then select the whois info for that domain. CONFIRMED BY TAYLORMADE THAT THIS MAINLAND CHINA SCAM-COMPANY IS SELLING COUNTERFEIT CLUBS. Hope youre still checking back on your posts and read this. No problem with the club but their customer service isnt that great and they dont take great care in their packaging. hack facebook. Dont order anything from any website to sell cheap cost for golf clubs. Quote; Ping g400 lst 10* w/Oban kiyoshi gold 65s. There is some advantage though to a higher trajectory. To be eligible, the founder must be actively involved in the company, the company cannot be a spinoff or a division of a larger company, and company sales for 2006 must be at least $1 million. Thanks for a absolutely great and informative site. I determined this by noting that at address the labeling on the shafts was visible whereas the genuine Ping clubs have the labeling on the underside at address. OK as stated, some more feedback after 36 holes. A legitimate seller of OEM clubs? While Im at it, I had also secured a Diamond Tour 56 degree Inazone DT15 wedge which is working tremendously well. The nerve of some people! I see about 30 different website under many different name of business while same contact us and see Chicago. It read exactly as follows:- Be happy to help. They removed serial numbers from authentic watches to eliminate the tracing of the product and sold them through internet storefronts that do not have the original retailers name. My last shot here is that if the OEMs were serious about fighting this problem, they would offer COMPETITIVE prices on used equipment that have been condition rated correctly. If you think it does then consider what kind of player the clubs would be suited too. I seldom create remarks, but after browsing through some of the responses here 10 Ways Not To Buy Fake Counterfeit Golf Clubs!. I guess the old saying, that if it is to good to be true it probably is, goes a long way here. I have never had a problem purchasing from any of the dealers Ive mentioned. They are therefore made to have the same performance as the name brands. I finally took it to a reputable supplier and compared it side by side. Many of the counterfeit clubs I have seen will look totally different from address than an authentic club. ns5.store.yahoo.com Ill pay full-price from a local legit dealer. has anyone ever dealt with the incredible golf store on ebay if so is his stuff legit? has anyone bought any knock off sets of ping G15 and had good quality? But a DNS search shows a Hong Kong manufacturing company unaffiliated with Taylormade. Please dont do it. I was waiting to see another new set to compare, but they are hard to come by here in Germany. Whats the difference. Why sell something three hundred dollars cheaper than everyone else, why not $100 less, or even $50?? Besides the sole numbers, please take note of the cavity features. Not only are the club heads counterfeit but so is everything else. All vely, vely cheap. Are you sure they are a rip off / fake? I think it is well worth buying. Any ideas, please feel free to let me know. I 19:45:04, if I wanted to check them in the brand site would i be able? As I read in a comment I would like to be able to hit the two side by side to see if there really is a difference or are we just being taken advantage of from the big boys by having the product made for say $100.00 and then selling it to us for $1000.00 I am not sure what angers me most. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330346428838&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT, Is anyone used this below website to order clubs from them? This is also not a full proof way of determining whether or not a set of clubs is fake or not, as most of those sites will accept any serial number that is enter. Although i wasnt happy being called a Muppet i didnt really mind as this saved me alot of money, and saved me getting into trouble with ebay!! Looking at the X-22 irons on Ebay, it appears to me that a whole bunch of them are almost certainly fakes. We have all top brands. If clones are the market you are looking into they are the best in that market for sure Bob. The club is noticably heavy becuase of this. This was on the list. Because of articles like this people become scared to but even though they are getting great deals. This ebay store sells the Precise S7 clubs that were made in 2009 by Tartan Sports. You can also try the magnet test on your driver to see if it will stick. I hope they have some great holiday specials for I have several golfers in my family. USGOLFSALE.com is another counterfiet site. THEY ARE FAKE I bought some and confirmed theyre fakes. Daisy 00:18:10 So I say avoid timetoshopping.com!!!! I hate to see you all type about so many different business names by the internet as you believe that price is cheaper or unsure if that company make the golf club from other country. yeah sorry wondering if mine are legit now . sale, wl (9000+ sells and 99.8% positive feedback). R9 driver or Diablo edge??? I have seen many posts where people ask how to Sell Your Golf Stuff Fast so they can get the answer from here as how and what to be done before buying golf clubs. I have a personal experience with gray market items with a nice watch I bought. if theyre knock-offs theyre really good. The seller never argued against it but was reluctant to offer a full refund. This is what I got from their customer care!!! No problem as I can see. Ill just use that fanciful term that all clubs are OEMs, that clubs come straight from the factory (but whose factory were not saying), that we carry every brand in the world, even those you have never heard of. of course they are phony$399 for 2012 Mizuno MP59? golfonlinehotsale.com, Avoid Like The PlagueCOUNTERFEIT TAYLORMADE CLUBS, AVOID http://WWW.GOLFONLINEHOTSALE.COM. 1) It says its based in the UK, but the Contact Us section says its located in West London . Expires on: 21-Mar-14 money, time and performance. That said, aesthetically the TC-201 has more in common with the pseudo-muscle back, MC-501. Titleist 915f 16.5* w/Aldia rogue max 75s. I checked the swing weight on each iron. How do I know my Miura irons are authentic? I traded my old set of CB-301s for them plus some cash. I wish there was a lot more information like this more accessible to the buyer without them having to hunt it out. I wanted to know if I could possible have the serial numbers off the clubs before I purchased them. Why dont I send you some cash instead?Will 2000 do? Looking that up, shows HUGE SCAM. My golf buddies joke about having the clubs labeled as TayrorMade or Carraway since its for the Japan market. But wait, theres more. Thomas Rath Did they have a telephone number which is not for sales only? ltd. FAKE CLUB TEST #3 Nike Sumo SQ 5900 Driver. Is the company real and did anubody bought any golf equipment from them. The bore heads were irregular. Thanks again all for your diligent effort to keep us hacks safe with our purchases!! The prices seem to good to be true. Do they meet the criteria of the other posts on here? Why? Just looking for the best deals without getting ripped off. I did have a friend who purchased a driver from an ebay listing and it listed brand new and after 3 rounds, the club head flew off the shaft. Though I wish I saw it a bit earlier, as I bought a set of mx200s off ebay. proshop jj located in new jersey united states. thanks for all the help. They went back the next day and I havent bought any Callaway equipment since. People like you is the reason there are fraud of the internet. Costco would have profit through volume, not through mandated markups. Having problems sending them back. The gray paint on the crown is completely different. Many thanks. Miura Black Wedges 53* and 60*, Nippon NS Pro 850 GH S-flex If you want the clubs and they are good deal buy them why worry about the price, thats Rockbottoms issue. Thankyou all. He is not on the Adams authorized list. No phone #. This disclaimer does not apply to any product warranty offered by the manufacturer of the item. Is this counterfeit clubs? Are you implying that all Adams clubs are genuine? Admin Street1: Xiamen It takes some work to make a putter that sets up perfectly and counterfeiters arent very good at the small details. Has anyone bought clubs from http://www.24golfstore.com Is this site for real? I am from Malaysia, world apart from US but if only you all there can adapt your purchase procedure to meet all round international needs of a country, buying from Golfetail can be enjoyable and fun especially when you are at the knife-edge bidding for the best price against the world at large. 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 The Honda Classic - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Discussion and Links to all photos, Arnold Palmer Invitational 2023 (*** NO LIV DISCUSSIONS/REFERENCES ***), 2023 HSBC Women's World Championship (Mar 02 - 05), TWO PUTTERS - ONE POST. Hi there As the recent purchaser of several golf items from your website, save and except some administrative mess-up that need some flexibility and adjustment to meet international purchasers like me, the goods delivered are of high and genuine quality.I do not hesitate to recommend purchasers world wide to put trust in your goods sold and warranted. Or go to WalMart. Hi as anyone dealt with wholesalegolfcheap.com, I have tried contacting them but they a very vague and dont answer my question about there adress or phone number? The reason to use a softer metal like 1018 is first and foremost to save money but to also allow it to be formed using an outdated or weakened forging press. Read through some of the FAQs for example: Q. Pat- I agree with you about being smart when shopping for anything online ESPECIALLY if the price is too good to be true. Admin Phone: +86.05946277277 Tech FAX: +86.05946277277 I bought from http://www.BudgetGolf.com and it was a good. I am very cynical, but also kinda cheap. Im looking at a set of Adams a12 os at a local golf retailer. stay as far away from them as you can. Tech Organization: Brandgolfclubs It is that golf club manufacturers are participating in the biggest price fixing scheme I can remember. Anyone ever heard of or used officegolfshop.com? Are they genuine. Because of this article, I went to Diamond Tour and looked over their wares, as well as spoke to several of their staffAnd, I bought a set of irons from them. Anyway, RBG get most of their stock through closeout/overstock activities i.e. Iasked them if the bolts were supposed to stay in place like on the R9 driver which I already owned and they advised that they were. Should I go directly to the credit card com pany or to PayPal. Ive been debating for a while now whether to purchase a new set of irons online or not and after my due diligence, I came across several online retailers. Any input would be greatly appreciated thank you! Otherwise he would not be in business so long now on e-bay. Ive looked at their Ebay pages and policies etc and they clearly stand out against hobbiests or potential fake sellers I would take the punt. Branding and lofts will be in a slightly different location on the club head. I know there are fake Miuras out there being sold especially on the Chinese sites The Big Dog ~ EXS 220| AD DI 6x I had a unique thought.. Is it possible that OEM businesses have contrived this web site to insure their profits are kept high?? I received the woods from China on 12/31/09 and due to some somewhat favorable weather was able to try them out on 01/01/10. Is your wesbite a scam? Has anyone had any good/bad dealings with them? about to buy a set of r9 irons reg steel for 539.00. hope they are real. That's why he went into business for himself and founded Miura, one of the best-known manufacturers of high-quality . 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